| OC Report: Team Xtreem 2x1GB PC6400 C3s // Powered by Hipro-Tech.com DDR Maximizer [message #97832] |
Sat, 23 December 2006 23:10  |
3oh6
Messages: 487
Registered: June 2005
Location: ontari-ho
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From: *cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
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Well, I am back with my second overclocking report of a Team Group memory kit. After my Team Xtreem 6400 C4 Adventures, I decided that I would grab the PC6400 C3s and see how my luck was with them. Prices jumped right after I bought this kit and I did manage to sell the 6400 C4s for about what I paid...bonus  . Needless to say I don't feel as bad for spending this much on RAM as I got almost all my money back on the last set.
We are all familiar with Team Group and the Xtreem line so I won't go into details about the company but I will mention that the Team Group enthusiast lines do carry a lifetime warranty like most major manufacturers these days.
These modules were purchased from NCIX up here in Canada and it appears I got one of the last sets because they are no longer even listed there. In the US, you can find this kit at Tank Guys for a cool $433 USD (at time of posting). I did find this kit listed at DirectCanada.com still, for $391CDN (at time of posting) but they are out of stock. I am sure they would order in a kit if you contacted them though. Since these are just another retail sample, like the last kit I picked up, they are in no way hand-picked or even a review sample. I hope I get lucky with this kit because they cost more than I normally am willing to pay  Here are the specs:
* Part # TXDD1024M800HC3DC
* ICs: Micron D9GMH
* Available in 1GB Dual Channel kits as well
* PC2-6400 800MHz 3-3-3-8
* 64x8 DDR2 FBGA Chips
* 240pin, Non-ECC, Un-buffered DDR2 SDRAM DIMM
* Aluminum Heat-spreader
* 6 Layers Ultra Low Noises Shielded PCB
* Retail Package
* Operating Voltage: 2.2V - 2.35V
* Lifetime Warranty
* http://www.teamgroup.com.tw/
Manufacturer link
Now that you have been introduced...photo shoot time!
Package:
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I got a surprise bonus with this kit as I got them close enough to christmas, a free 512MB Team Group thumbdrive. Bonus freebies are always nice and I found out that most kits purchased around the holidays should come with the same thumbdrive...but I make no gaurantees. Like all their Xtreem modules, the Team Group PC6400 C3s come with heatspreaders seperate and that is how they will stay. I am not one for the bling factor I guess...naked is how I like my ladies and memory
Package Contents:
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Despite the appeal of the very shiny Team heatspreaders, I still prefer the naked modules...each to his own though. There isn't a whole lot else to mention here except that the modules are obviously D9GMH and are clearly labeled as DDR800 C3 parts.
Setup & Testing:
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I start out with a installation photo in my P5B-Dlx with the DDR Maximizer waiting in the wings, ready for action. This time I have my Chilly1 SS setup for taking on the job of cooling my little E6300 while I abuse this memory. The second photo is what the setup looked like for the entire length of testing. The third image is of the AM2 setup for testing...notice the uber short PSU cables. I am reviewing a killer little 500w SilverStone power supply designed for m-ATX cases and the cables happen to be perfect for a bench setup like mine .
[b]AMD Setup:[/b] [b]Intel Setup:[/b]
MB: DFI LanParty NF590 SLI-M2R/G MB: Asus P5B-Dlx Wifi
CPU: AMD64 X2 4000+ (CCBYF 0620UPMW) CPU: Intel C2D E6300 (L630A864)
CPU Cooling: Asetek WaterChill CPU Cooling: Chilly1 SS
PSU: SilverStone Element 500W NB Cooling: Noctua NC-U6
HD: Seagate SATAII 80GB 8MB NCQ PSU: Silverstone Zeus 560W
OS: Windows XP Pro HD: Seagate SATAII 80GB 8MB NCQ
OS: Windows XP Pro
EXTRA: Hipro-Tech.com DDR Maximizer
Ambient Temperature: 22-23C
I have again decided on a self imposed voltage limit of 2.6v because I don't feel like destroying this pretty pricey kit of memory. When companies start to throw RAM at me like its a beaded neckless and I'm a perky 21 year old looking at them through my cotton white tank-top at Mardi-Gras, then I will put the stoopid amounts of voltage through the RAM that we all like to see. Until that time however, my "old age" kicks in and I will be slightly conservative with what I put through these sticks.
A couple brief notes before we get to the results...
A - SmartGuardian reports VDIMM 0.11v lower than it actually is
B - Dual 32M SPi is my stability testing method of choice. Generally speaking the overclocks with super tight secondaries can be made dual Prime stable by adjusting those. The overclocks where the secondary timings have already been loosened sometimes need to knock a couple MHz off to make dual Prime stable. For the most part though, dual 32M SPi stable gets you close to where sticks will be prime stable in my experience.
Now...the standing in the corner of the gym with my thumb up my ass portion of the evening is over, Young MCs Bust-a-Move just came on over the loud speakers and it is time for this kid to get busy on the dance floor.
3-3-3-8:
Intel:
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DDR750 :: 2.00v | DDR780 :: 2.10v | DDR810 :: 2.20v | DDR840 :: 2.30v | DDR870 :: 2.40v
AMD:
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DDR736 :: 2.00v | DDR784 :: 2.10v | DDR810 :: 2.20v | DDR854 :: 2.33v | DDR876 :: 2.42v
4-4-3-4/5:
Intel:
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DDR890 :: 2.00v | DDR940 :: 2.10v | DDR980 :: 2.20v | DDR1020 :: 2.30v | DDR1050 :: 2.40v
AMD:
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DDR958 :: 2.00v | DDR1000 :: 2.10v | DDR1040 :: 2.20v | DDR1080 :: 2.33v | DDR1140 :: 2.42v
4-4-4-8:
Intel:
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DDR940 :: 2.00v | DDR1000 :: 2.10v | DDR1050 :: 2.20v | DDR1090 :: 2.30v | DDR1120 :: 2.40v
The 4-4-3-4 results on my P5B-Dlx were not what I was expecting so I played with the primary timings a little bit and found quickly that this kit just doesn't like TRP of 3 that much. I probably could have ran these overclocks at 4-4-4-5 but I started with a TRAS of 8 and just left it there. This kit simply screams on the P5B-Dlx with this timing set...much like it does at 4-4-3-5 on AM2 like we just saw.
5-5-5-8:
Intel:
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DDR1150 :: 2.00v | DDR1180 :: 2.10v | DDR1210 :: 2.20v
This is where the road got rough. Anything past 605MHz wouldn't stabalize regardless of memory voltage, or secondary timings available in the BIOS. I will continue with the 5-5-5 clocks at a later date because they will take some time to get past DDR1210. It could be a chipset issue but the P5B-Dlx should be able to plow through these clocks so I am not about to give up.
AMD:
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DDR1080 :: 2.00v | DDR1160 :: 2.10v | DDR1220 :: 2.20v
At 3050MHz, my CPU/IMC runs out of gas. No amount of drive strength/secondary timings tweaking or voltage will get me dual 32M stable at 3100MHz/DDR1240. I can prime all day at 3100MHz with the memory on a lower divider with this CPU but at DDR1240, dual SPi is a pipe dream so I suspect it is an IMC issue as this memory kit clearly has plenty of legs left. I think it is a coincidence that the memory fizzles out at DDR1220ish on both Intel and AM2, but I could easily be wrong and this could just be the wall for the memory without a crazy amount of voltage.
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| Re: OC Report: Team Xtreem 2x1GB PC6400 C3s // Powered by Hipro-Tech.com DDR Maximizer [message #97902 is a reply to message #97872] |
Sun, 24 December 2006 18:55  |
3oh6
Messages: 487
Registered: June 2005
Location: ontari-ho
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Intel Pentium II |
From: *cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
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thank-you very much M16, i am glad you enjoy my work. i am quite pleased with this kit...it cost enough but worth every penny. DDR1200 C4 will happpen, @ 2.5v might not though...we'll see.
i understand the feelings toward TEAM and that is paritally why i decided to buy both their 6400 C4 and C3 kits...i had similar feelings as well. i figured i would pick up their memory and pass judgement based on personal experience instead and from that we have gotten a couple OCing reports that shine a very nice light on them.
needless to say, both kits have performed very well and considering that they sell these kits for substantially less than many other manufacturers 6400 C4, 6400 C3, or comparable kits; i think more people should get on the TEAM Group bandwagon. especially in Canada where prices are very comparable to the US prices of their memory.
plus, i like how they do business. the TEAM Xtreem will always be D9MGH, even the 6400 C4s. there is no IC switching on their Xtreem line like what Corsair has done recently with their 6400 C4 memory, including the 6400 C4D (Dominators). many enthusiasts were upset and still are that Corsair uses Promos ICs on the majority of all 6400 C4/C4D kits, myself included as i bought a kit of 6400 C4D only to have to pay $20 to send them back to DirectCanada when I found out they were Promos.
TEAM Group will be coming out with a less expensive line of 6400 4-4-4-12 and 5300 3-4-4-8 called TEAM Xtreem Dark. these will not be D9GMH but will be Promos based and will sell for less than the 6400 C4s that do use D9GMH. i have arranged to review both kits so look for the first review to come out early in the new year.
oh, and no i don't review for anyone else...O2 is my home and i love it here!
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| Re: OC Report: Team Xtreem 2x1GB PC6400 C3s // Powered by Hipro-Tech.com DDR Maximizer [message #97951 is a reply to message #97932] |
Sun, 24 December 2006 23:33 |
marauder16
Messages: 1232
Registered: February 2006
Location: Croatia, Europe
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Northwood |
From: *adsl.net.t-com.hr
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lol, no I'm in Croatia/ Europe  I got them form memory-configurator.com for 327 euros plus shipping, I believe they'd ship everywhere so you can order from them (about 432$ + shipp.)
EDIT: they have a 5-year warranty but I don't mind that...
ICFX3200 07/30 w/ MCW30
E6600 w/ EK Supreme
Powercolor HD3870 w/ MCW60
OCZ Reaper 2x2GB CAS4 /or/ Cellshock 2x1GB D9GKX CAS4
2x Caviar 250GB RAID Ed. in RAID0
SS Strider 750W, modded P180 (dual-loop w/c)
PX-750A, SM 930BF
[Updated on: Sun, 24 December 2006 23:34] Report message to a moderator |
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